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cv 98-2140 . A (3) : eurther stated that he heard confirmed reports of sniper fT? coming in over both the National Guard radio and the State Police radio. Meee SAQid that he helved two National Guardsmen into jeeps to renoved from the area. Both were badly hurt, one being unconscious and the other having what appeared to be a broken arm. He stayed at KSU until the campus was closed. observations were part of the interview with id that he sav no displey of either knives or guns by demonstrators, but he did sce various weapons that they aid display. These included golf clubs, baseball bats, golf balls with spikes in them, sling shots and ball bearings, and pieces of cteol wire (like thet uced to reinforce concrete) cut into 8 to 12 inch sections. >: he saw "kids" with walkie talkies, home built AM-FM radios O%d other gadgetry used to monitor the police and Guaré wave lengths. He stated that whenever there was a call for reinforcements, the students would disperse. He noted also that 7: bell seemed to coordinate all of the demonstratore' movements. As early as Thursday night, lights were being broken out on and around the Comnons area. Public telephones were smashe: and dorm phones were left off the hook, in what appeared to be @& move to cut the campus off from the outside. etated that he would testify before a Grand Jury. "so gave the nanes of people who he thougnt were incidents at KSU. They are the following: Qn