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= 3 = She stated that while she and George Kelly were in the Twin Cities, on one of the occasions before mentioned, Albert Bates rrived with $40,000.00 of the money received from the Urechel family. Bates approached Banks to have this money exchanged but Eethryn Kelly does not know what disposition was made of it. In conclusion, she ord that the two men convicted just "took the rap™ for Tommy Banks. She wes questioned about the remainder of the ransom money and she recalled that Albert Bates told her that he had the money buried in thermos jugs on the farm of a friend somewhere near Denver, Coloradc. Bates mentioned the name of the friend, but Lirs. Kelly could not recall it. In connection with the foregoing, I may state that while talking to Bates in Oklahoma City and at the Leavenvorth Penitentiary, he intimated that Fethryn Kelly had a general idee of where the ransom money was buried. C7 He remarked, however, thet he did not think she could find it in a thousand . } years. Eatbrom Kelly said she hoped that Bates would accumilate enough 7 4 sense to turn the morey back so "sore of the heat" on them might be taken | ce . off. c 4 a7 As irs. Eelly has previously stated to me, she reiterated ee ° +1 NS that there is no doubt in her mind but that there is avteak in information Vee Ug SOU from the St. Paul office. She seid that at one time she knew the neme of . oa Q : au individual who furnished Tanmmy Eanks and Jaci(breifter with information #4 sO from the Divisien files but eculd not recall it. In this connection she aie da 4 mo stated that while Keating and Holcen were fugitives in St. Paul, their m = Ls whereabouts was learned by ea Governmmert agent. Through Tommy Banks, Keat- * ’ ing and Eolder peid $5,006.00 to en agent for protection. This agent, 4 according to Mrs. Eellyv, was giver to understand by Tormy Banks that he would be "bumped off" if he double-crossed Keating and Holden on the pey- off. She suggested thet Keating and Eolden might be interviewed to advantage for information regarding tke identity of the agent who received the pay-off. ar | 4 Korey, —=— fhe information set forth above in so fer aa it pertains to the arrangemerts to have Vi Mathis transferred to the Detention Farm was discussed with Mr. Menby of the Division by telephone on the night of Marck 6, 1934, while I was in Detroit, Michigan. Today, while talking tour. Newby, I informed him that Eddie Doll had requested ne to inter- wet view hir as soon as he received his sentence. kr. Newby advised me thet Doll is now incercerated in the Federal Fenitentiary at Leavehworth, Kas., and sanctioned my return to Fansas City for the purpose of an interview with Boll and other individuels in the peritentiary, who may have iInforma- tion regarding the Kanses City massacre and the Bremer case. BEA: AB £. E. ANDERSEN Special Agent