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ie | Q RE: JOHN L. LEIS, ET AL. INTERVIE:. WITH as interviewed at hid residence, A> nny Springfield, Illinois, on the afternoon of Dbeptember 18, 1943, by Special Jgonts semmmtintminms :: «crs of ser sce 1- telligence , and would make an average witness. He declined to sign the following statement on the general principle thet he does not sign things. He read it over, however, and assured that it was truc as far as his knowledge of affairs was concerned. "Springfield, Ill. September 16, 1943. yy name is ne I was born ~~ 0h0lUlt i‘ I I am now employed at Mine A. I make the following Tene. ment to TT who have identified themselves to me to be Specia ents 0 e Fodcral Bureau of Investigation. No promses, threets, or consideration of eny kind has beon made to me to make this statement. "I have worked at Mine 4 for about Byer. I wes employed there when Ryen sold the minc. Prior to that time I had heard no talk among the men about changing unions. I think they were satisfied with the union as it was. I know that I was satisfied with the Progressive Mine torkers of American. I do not know wny the men changed unions. I did not see any men or talk to them about the changee I did not especially care what they did about unions. Either union would be alright with me. I did not go to any meetings where this matter was discussed. I went back to work. I did not sign an application to join the UW.. J had my card in the Pi. transferred, and went on working as before the mine had been sold. "I do not know much more about the situation than that. J do not see that there is any change in working conditions than under the Progressive Mine workers. &t the time I was satisfied with the Afi. Now I am satis- fied with the UM@,. "I have read tho above stetement on thie page. It is true and accurate. FBI, ome | r