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sad é 5 ia) Re: JOHN L, LEWIS, ET AL. INTERVILW WIT! QS = pus they tried to convert to the = (Continued) UMi were beaten up, and ‘Gudget Bune who lives atQM Illinois, and whose true name is. eo By ar beat up @ young Italian miner with a pick handle while he was in the mine 80 bad that he was in the hospital for months. Before this Italian miner was beat up he told me that Charles Bohanpon and ‘Sudge' Bumgamer had told him that he had better sign up with the UL. "Carl Elshoff and Oscar Falcetti wanted to sign up with the UM. and they got a bunch of thugs in the mine to swing the men over to the UM membership. As best as I can recall, this happened about three months before the strike in May, 1937. These men were members of the PMA but also working for the UMN. Some of these men were Yudge? Burgamer,” Joe Albanese, Andrew Schrelevjous, Dominic Pasquale, Pete Carter, : Austin, Tony Plotch, John Cotton, whom I also knew as John Ananias, John Sirtout, George Jacaway, Emory Jacaway, Charles Behannon and James Hale. “Falcetti arid Elshoff were very friendly with the above mentioned thirteen men and the others who helped them, Falcetti and Elshoff had these men at the Mine B. company office where they had drinking parties at night. I did not personally see this, but Bill Compton, President of” PYA and John Schngjder whe also holds an office in the PUA, saw this association, ~~ “ with UM/, but Charles Bohannon, who Elshoff and Falcetti were friendly wi told me I had to sign up with the UM/ or else I could not work, as the miners trere going over to Ul. "I never heard Falcetti or Elshoff say they wanted to sign up / / th. ®T thought PMA was a fine union, and that it was well mm. I recall that the officials of PMi got along wel) with the members of that vnion, at mine B, “In the spring of 1937 when there was a wage scale controversy, I don't recall what the PMA officials said what the contract with the operators consisted of and there was a Slowdown, I believe the slowdown was due to Elshoff's thugs who by their trying to organize caused hard feelings, and I do not believe the slowdown was due to any wage scale trouble. These thugs J] mentioned before in this statement were big men, and pretended to be air testers but they walked all over the mine organizing for UMi/ and trying to sign up the miners with UMY. One of these Bo-called air testers was named aa or a name that sounds like that. I know him when J see hin, « 301 « A ee ee ote ene om ait aah aaa oe baneee gina a Tae