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aL a ta + : Re: JOHN L. LEwiS, ET SL 9c bp INTERVIEn WITH 1937, James Hale, Charles Bohannon end Gudge Bumgarner,’ _ rrti (sts—‘(C;Cs—~SY Whose true name is Leo Bumgarner all got new cara. “fcontinuea) heard they were paid for organizing for UMa, but I do not know how much they were paid or who paid then. These men, who were Uk% spies never contacted me to get me to join the UM, but they did contact other miners. I heard such remarks being made by some of these twelve men to Frogressive miners after the mine opened under open contract after November, 1939, and before the TAW won the NLRB election ' sometime latcr as follows: "Thy don't you join the UMw. The PMA is no good for you. You won't be able to werk much longer if you stay with the / mrt. fee ; "I did not attend the meeting of PMA on May 11, 1937 when the five men who were URL: organizers were threwn out of the PRA. However, the next day when Elshoff wculd not discharge these five men, the miners were — dissatisfied and the cars were loaded short, I think the cars were loaded short because Kishoff would not discharge these men, and not because there was any trouble over the wage scale controversy. ed the PLL petition on May 26, 1937 to show Ia member and to show the Pita had the majority of the miners working at that time. I signed this petition volunterily at the mine. : "In Mey, 1937, I helped in the PliéA picket line for about a week. Iwas at the mine every time it attompted to open from Boptember, | 27, 1937 until it did open in November, 1939. ‘shen I wont back to work in Mine B in Nevembor, 1939, I went in as a member of Pu&. I am still working at Mine B, but now undcr the UMW. I saw notices in the newspapers and heard from the miners about tho attempt to open the mine, but i don't remember just what the dates were. *I remained a member of PAA until after the NLRB election in 1941 when the DMT got the bargaining rights and thon joined UMW merely be- cause I wanted a job. I have no fault to find with the Pld. They troated me fine and that union was well managed as far as I kncw. “In November 1939 when Nine B opened as an open shop Charles. Bohannon and the other eleven men I mentioned in this statement as woll as or and Cudge Bumgarner and others wer organizing for nu, DU y did not try to convert’ fe, The PUA did nothing about this organizing, except expelling the five men from Peer eae PL. THR Ft FF wo Eee eh ek bt Me Be ie ne tne union. ihe Fa Gid nothing avouy this aeiver ths mins opened in November, 1939, but just waited for the law to take care of it, but the law was too late. . "In the KLRB election on December 15, 1937, I think the election was run fairly and I never hoard from anyone that there was any fraud. The - 298 - . - a ee na ain namin antitadahaie mies ton amines _imernieaentiaiammasiatelts hemieeiiiantnian tiie tA ei titan Bee initia alana