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3. (Mx. Tamm) comment to the press about the matter; that he, Mr. Hoover, waa with Win- chell at the broadcast and he had this item written up before Mr. Hoover got there, and wanted to know whether it was atl right, et cetera, and Mr. Hoover told him that one guess is as good as another. Mir. Tamm stated that technically we are looking for him in New York. Mr. Hoover said what he had in mind was Winchell also had in the broadcast about Frank/Wilson in New Orleans, end it might be well to heve ourselves in the picture, even though there is nothing to it. Mr. Hoover atated he asked that he, Winchell, put in something about the Hamilton-Karpis;Robinson matter, which he did. Mr. Hoover stated he was trying to re-gain some of the publicity which we have lost during the past week. Mr. Hoover instructed Mr. Tamm to tell Mr. Whitley that, if any newspapers call, he should refuse to make any com want awl 2P onw dee estontiane nee wee Ae ts We ett + . | one Wee wh Ht +14 MeL, GU 2h Gy ALUN LSS Go Meu 20 NESE LU, Me LE DUVUL VoL Colonel Gates or Mr. Suydam he does not know anything about that matter as Mr. Hoover is handling it, and is in New York, and let it stand at that. Mr. Hoover stated the paper was already printed and on the street with this story in it, and Winchell picked it off the second page. Mr. Tamm advised Mr. Hoover further that Mr. Carusi called him this morning and referred to Shearer's statement, and wanted to know whether we had any lists of Communists in our files, and was told we did not. Mr. fermsi roesd to Ur. Tamm o neweneanear clinning which cunted a hich of ficiat Vie ee SR UN ke SC SR epee See, RR QU See Cn ee of the Department of Justice who is supposed to have said the other day that we not only had no lists of Commmists in the Department files tut that there were no Federal Statutes penalizing such activities. Mr. Tamm told Mr. Carusi he did not kmow who the high Department of Justice of- ficial wes, but it was very accurate, so far as he, Mr. Tamm, mew. Mr. Carusi announced he was the high Department of Justice official who made the statement. Mr. Tamm advised the Director we have a plant in New York City, us 12 men 6 at a time, covering. the [Gonrad women, who is a friend of Gisdys Gewyer;: that she went to New York the\other day; that Gladys Sawyer i e wife of Herry Sawyer; , that H Saeyer is a friend of William Weiss ofjWeissman over around Newark, and we thought we might get a lead lon Harry Sawyer, but it has not developed anything as yet. Mr. Hoover instructed that word be given to Whitley, if anything breeks on this,. to advise Mr. Hoover at the Hotel New Yorker. Mr. Hoover stated he had not gone to the New York Office, but had been in touch, nov and then, with it. He steted he did not desire to go to the office uless it was something absolutely necessary.