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id MAN: What kind @. fellow was Steven Weed?” Was he some engoli who could mow her or was he a weakling too? MARILYN: No. Steven Weed reminds me of pablum. And that's about the only way I can say it. Just a total nonentity. Steve Weed was the type that right after the kidnaping, as we gof into it in the book, he stayed at the Randolph and Catherine Hearst home for a week and his main complaint to me was I'm going to have to leave, Marilyn, because you know they don't even make their own cookies they have them delivered by a bakery. That was what he was hung up on. BARBARA: Marilyn, when you talk about the SLA, you say although they had claimed to be a political movement with Black support, indeed they have no black support. MARILYN: Donald DeFreeze was the house black. That was it. He was the cook. BARBARA: Most of them were white? MARILYN: They were all white. There were two black men in on the kidnaping, Thero Wheeler and Donald DeFreeze, Wheeler split immediately after the kidnaping. They went from black neighborhood to black neighborhood. DeFreeze literally went door to door knocking on doors saying, "Hi there, my name is Cinque, would you like to join my revolution?" BARBARA: So there is not black support? MARILYN: No there is not. BARBARA: You also say they are not a political organization that their aims and motivations are not political. What is it? | ft MARILYN: I think it is nothing but greed. I think it is nothing but attention. You see, I will not call gangsters politicians and therefore I don't think gangsters should hide behind politics. Niether do I think the gangsters in Washington should hide behind politics. These people said that they were political but they did nothing to change the political system. All they did was murder a black educator who did a great deal to help the third world people. BARBARA: They tried, I'm doing the other side, they tried to get food for the poor. MARILYN: No they didn't, they set that up in such a way that itgcouldn't help but be anything but a "rip off" and that is; what it was. $2 million went to pimps and prostitutes. Yesf they = _-3-