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° -+9 (Rev. 10-15-62) yh omens Noe Merry-Go-Roumd yD rew earsort other fellow should be nerv- on Dred sting aspect. oflous, so there ain't no use in ing match is that both Sonny| “What do you think is the j Liston and Floyd Patterson future of Cassius Clay?” - Well, I think he'd better stick to poetry.” ~ “Sonny, did you ever play football?” “No—it was a little too rough for me. I don't understand it ‘lyet. Like when the football ‘player gets the ball, one man will grab him and throw him down. Then the other twelve come pile up on him. What's ‘Mm |the use of doing that?” Pearson “You think it’s enough to in New/|have one man against you?” York, two homes on the East| “That’s right.” ide where boys just out of| “What about when you have reform school can live during|the referee against you?” the first difficult period of| “Well, as long as he can adjus t. count up to ten he can’t cheat Sonny"Liston came to Wash-|0 you.” ingto or the last Big Broth- Boxi ° ers dinner and among other| Boxing Czar! things spent some time at} “what de you think of the Junior Village, a Government} Kefauver bill to have a boxing orphanage where he tried -to|-ommissioner regulate the fill the vacuum in the lives{ snort?” , of children, some of whom] «well, I feel that if he could * have never seen a mother./find a man that’s been in the ‘Sonny was 0 occupied that/field, it would be fine, but he was late getting to the din-/i¢ he just got a man that * per. don’t. know anything about ’ At that dinner, in front of boxing, it would just be like ’ 800 people, including the Viceja truck driver running a jet.” President, I interviewed Lis- “In other words, you ton on a lot of subjects rang-| wouldn't want a politician be- fn” tine from Cassius Clay to death jing the boxing ezar?” ring. Bere is part of; “No ¥ wouldn't.” the repartee: “You were telling me a Ut- “Sonny, do you ever feelitie earlier that the ‘referee nervous before a figtit?” -{doesn't always of as servant | I am the Psychology of the boxer fused his own money to set up the “Floyd Patterson Houses” © | Boyy Ne Need, q. Boys/Need a Home, Says § Sonny Wa sh Je “feel that the!when he’s knocked out. What’s the world's heavyweight box-jboth of us being nervous.” down in the ring?” understand|find stuff before it got lost.” i: Cc eacnan Se avel Le fe EP CRMRTTON CONT Sng ee TT your tactic when a man is “Well, I tell the guy my mame in the center of the ring, and if he can't remem- ber it when he gets knocked down, I feel that he’s in trou- ble. He doesn’t know that he’s done. Sometimes, I hold up four fingers—how many fin- gers have I got up? And if he says four, he’s all right; but if he says two, I know he can’t see. So I feel the fight should be stopped.” “Now, turning to the ‘most important question before us this evening—the problems of youth—what do you think is the most important factor in helping boys keep out of trou- ble?” “Well, I feel it’s the home. I feel that mothers and fa- thers should know where the child is at all times. And should have a deadline to get home at night.” “How many children were. there is your family?” “My mother had 14, my fa- Saker on o “ > poss ACL The Washington Post anki hb 5.) Times Herald The Washington Daily News The Evening Star New York Herald Tribune —— New York Journal-American New York Mirror New York Daily News ECe 2 yor Post The New York Times ther was married twice, andl )o° “°'*®? there's 25 of us in all.” a: fz — “You were born in Arkan- Ws 3éuira! sas, and I know your father] . Rees o peepee was a cotton farmer. Did you work in the cotton fields? When you moved to St. Louis, about how old were you?” “Well, that’s when the trou- ble started. Life was too bright for my eye, so 1 would wwiate _‘& AUG % 1963 JUL 22 1962 Laff “What would y .