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ro epiedis. . cl making several general comments about himself anc SURCESS re of interest to this investiga+- tion, qhpntes en the occesion of the second interview pointed out once again that it should be borne in mind by interviewing agents that he did not have any close association with BURGESS and stated that upon reflection he was fairly certain that he has not seen BURGESS on more ther: twenty occasions during his whole life. He also pointed out that it is quite impossible to analyze activities of the period 1936 and 1937 in which ke and ig and others were engaged, in the light of the political thinking of today. “UMMMBYBy seid that the period of interest here was the period of the so-célled "United Front"; that very little considera- tion was given at that time to the motives of the Soviets; that this did not come until later; and that at this time the whole hue and cry was fight Fescism and Nazism wherever it was observed, “uuqnnynam said that it was not until the news of the Moscow purge trials in the late 1930's began to leak out and other events came to light that Russia had undermined the Spanish Loyalists that people began to realize that perhaps they had been duped in some of their so- called United Front activities. Stated he did not make this point by way of apology but simply as a statement of fact. He re-emphasized that he had no knowledge of anv espionage a. activities on the part of BURGESS or pre He stated - that he has no reason to withhold information of such a nature were he to possess it and his present feeling is that he recognizes the evil of Soviet Communism and would do anything in his power to combat it; however, he stated he has no further information a which would throw any light on this matter. . ard 77