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a « FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 279A-WF-222936 Continuation of FD-302 of [ ,On 06 / 29 / 2005 , Page 7 like working with animals, and[__] never received training on the use of respirators, which was required for all individuals IO OY of participating in the challenges. also noted that[ jis unaware of anyone at USAMRIID ever "piggy-backing" in or out of hot areas. explained this was a practice that was absolutely not allowed. explained that all of the safety and security procedures in place were designed first_and foremost to individuals who work at USAMRIID, and[___land the people worked with would never violate any of those procedures. noted that when you work with such dangerous organisms, and you know what they can do, the last thing you want_is to expose yourself or someone else to those organisms. also noted that visiting scientists were not allowed in the hot suites, and[__ ]is unaware of anyone ever taking a visiting scientist into a hot suite. rotect the is unaware of anyone ever trying to covertly remove select agents from a hot suite, apa Tel ieves it would be very difficult to succeed if you tried. explained that there are only four paths out of a suite. The first would be a small pass box that sterilizes outgoing items using UV radiation. The box is locked on both sides, and the side where you would retrieve the sterilized item is in the outer hallway, right next to the guard station. It would be very difficult to get anything out of the lab unobserved. also noted that usually you are using it to remove paperwork from the lab, and you slide the sheets into the pass box one at a time, so that the piece of paper gets sterilized on both sides. [____—_—sidjallso noted that there is an autoclave in the hot suites. However, the autoclave is designed so that once you open the door on the "hot" side, you can't open the door on the clean side until you have shut the door on the "hot" side, and actually run the machine through one cycle. An organism could not survive the autoclave process. —aico noted there is a set of crash doors in the hot suite, for use in an emergency, such as a fire. However, if those doors were opened, alarms would go off and it would be electronically registered that the doors were opened. The last path out of the hot suite would be with an individual, who leaves the suite and goes into the shower. However, the only way you would be able to get something out unobserved via this path would be by putting the item into a body cavity, and[ J noted believes there is no way a person could do that without being exposed to the organism/substance. However, if someone actually tried that prior to the terrorist attacks of 09/11/2001, they might have successfully removed the item from the building, because at that time the guards did not search employee bags when they left the building.