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FLYING SAUCER -Approved For Release 2001/04/02 : CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010003-8 wee Dr. Simon accepted a sighting, but found the abduction improbable _ warts might be a psychosomatic symptom con- nected with the feelings experienced under hyp- nosis. And yet, Barney reasoned, they had initially appeared back in 1962, when he had no conscious memory of the events aboard the craft. Now, in 1964, during the sessions, they became inflamed. Neither Dr. Simon nor the skin specialist appeared to be concerned about the warts, which were easily removed by electrolysis. But to Bar- ney, the gnawing thought remained that this could be evidence—if indeed there was anything to this totally incredible story. On April 5, 1964, the day of the next ses- sion, the Hills knew they might be permitted to hear some of the playbacks of the tapes. pocror: Well, I think now we want to talk to the two of you together a bit and see where we go from there. . .. What I'd like to do is to get this into consciousness and discuss it freely. There are two things involved. I mean each of you has had a common experience, and you have had separate experiences. I can take you each indi- vidually, and then together, or just take you two together. How do you feel about it? BARNEY: I think that we can work together, don’t you, Betty? Betty nods in agreement. DOCTOR: So you can get a complete sharing of this thing, and see it from each other's side. All right. Number two: I can talk about it, and give you the experiences. Or we can take a certain amount of risk in terms of your anxiety by going over all this together and playing it back. BETTY: Play it back. DOCTOR: There is quite a bit of it, and it’s prob- ably the better way, and I think that I would rather not discuss the realities and fantasies until you've really gotten all the material that I have, of which you are unconsciously aware, but of which you know little consciously at this point. .. Now, if these recordings get hard to bear—and some of it isn’t going to be easy to take—let me know right away, and I can always help ease you. “When I first began hearing my voice under hypnosis,” Barney said later, ‘I couldn’tbelieveit. Tt was difficult for me to really understand that this was me, saying that this has actually hap- pened. . . . I wasn’t too concerned about the first part of the tapes—coming down through Canada and upper New Hampshire. I remembered practi- cally all this detail in my consciousness. But as the tapes moved along toward Indian Head, I didn’t know what was going to happen. I could feel my ulcer. I mean I could feel my stomach churning, my muscles tighten. I just didn’t know what to expect. . Betty’ s reaction was similar: “I began to get scared. I said to myself, ‘Oh, good Lord—I’d just as soon go home and not hear them!’ ” Slowly, the tape approached the portion in- volving the “abduction” at Indian Head. “I knew I was getting to the point of which I had no com- plete memory,” Barney continues, in describing his reaction at a later date. ‘Then, I was suddenly startled... . I heard myself saying that the eyes seemed to be burning into my senses like an in- delible imprint. And I began to feel the pieces un- folding. I was beginning to remember. . . . I sud- denly realized how I had broken my binocular straps [by pulling them from his neck violently 118 100k 10-18-66 after seeing the figures aboard the uro]. Arid I remembered that for days after Indian Head, I had an intense soreness in the back of my neck. Listening to the tapes, this came back to me sharply. ... As the tapes went deeper and deeper into the part I had never remembered, there was the feeling as if heavy chains were lifted off my shoulders. I felt that I need no longer suffer the anxieties of wondering what happened. . . . “At the part of the tapes where my voice said that I was just ‘floating about,’ I then knew that I wasn’t really floating about. I was being half-dragged to the ship. I could actually feel be- ing suspended with the arms holding me. And what was so curious is that I could feel the pres- sure of the arms. When I talk about this, I feel chills about the whole thing, the pressure of the arms, of these small men holding me and drag- ging me along. ...I knew, I felt, I was almost sure as I listened to the tapes that this was no fantasy or dream. . Barney continued to sum up his overall re- action: “I felt so overwhelmed and relieved. Now, parts of my life that had been missing were added to it again. Parts of my life were being put back together.” The playback of the recordings stimulated release into their conscious minds further details, some of which had not been expressed during the hypnotic sessions. This release of new material is a product of the ‘working through” process in psychotherapy, either with or without hypnosis. ARNEY FOUND himself remembering that “The men had rather odd-shaped heads, with a large cranium, diminish- ing in size as it got toward the chin. And the eyes continued around to the sides of their heads, so that it appeared that they could see several degrees beyond the lateral ex- tent of our vision. And something that I remem- bered, after listening to the tapes, is the mouth it- self. I could not describe the mouth before, and I drew the picture without including the mouth. But it was much like when you draw one hori- zontal line, with a short perpendicular line on each end. This horizontal line would represent the lips without the muscle that we have. And it would part slightly as they made this mumumum- ming sound. The texture of the skin, as I re- member it from this quick glance, was grayish, LOOK t0-18-65° almost metalliclooking. I didn’t notice any hair— or headgear for that matter. Also, I didn’t notice any nose, there just seemed to be two slits that represented the nostrils. “When I was in the corridor, I was surprised that the leader didn’t follow me into the room. But again—the eyes seemed to follow me. . . : Wherever he was, he was still able to convey mes- sages to me, such as recognizing when I would become more fearful or needed calming down. . “I only got a very brief glance at the room, through the door. The room was pie- “shaped, but as if the point of the pie had been cut off. . “The main thing I was impressed by was s the table that I was to lie on, because it was so much shorter than anything that would ordinarily hold a human being. So that when I got on the table, my legs dangled over the end.” Inconsistencies and paradoxes were reex- amined as the playback sessions continued over the next several weeks. The Hills retraced the route of the journey with Walter Webb, filling in further details, and were convinced that they had found the exact spot of the roadblock on a side road two or three miles east of Route 3. The final session in which hypnosis was em- ployed seemed to sum up the dilemma that had carried through the entire six months. Was the experience dream or reality? In a sense, among the principals, there were three points of view. Dr. Simon felt he could ac- cept the probability that the Hills had had an ex- perience with an unusual aerial phenomenon, a sighting that stimulated an intense emotional reaction. He felt that the “abduction” itself was improbable. Betty felt that the hypnosis had dem- onstrated marked evidence that her dreams were a reflection and remembrance of reality. Barney vacillated between these points of view, although his ultimate conclusion was that he could not distinguish between other known reality and the sequence of events that finally came out under hypnosis. In other words, once the amnesia was overcome, he could sense no difference between what he remembered consciously and what he re- called revealed under hypnosis: The entire jour- ney had been a complete, uninterrupted con- tinuum, including the ‘‘abduction”’ sequence. Everyone recognized by June that there would be no full conclusion either to the therapy continued WILLIAM HAMILTON: “Oh, come now, Fred. If there were 686 million people in China, I would have heard something about it!” Approved For Release 2001/04/02 : CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010003-8